Tom Cruise’s Opininon | ADHD Information

Legend has it that the church of Scientology compiles lists of celebrity secrets, and waves the secrets over celebrities heads as blackmail: pay the church ridiculous sums of money to keep the secrets in their files. This legend is most probably false.
On the topic of celebrities and their weird beliefs,
I just can't wait to see Madonna unleash her Golem...she must have made one by now, what with her Kabbalistic talents. Man, Madonna will bring on the end of days. LOL!!!!

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Beck's family raised him as a scientologist. He rebelled against it in his teen years, and is now back with it. So Ive heard, lol. Imagine rebelling against scientology! lol. Clebrities are NUTS, ALL OF THEM, with the exception of maybe Jim Carey, Robbie Williams and a few like that.... not because they aren't nuts, but because they at least have come to accept the fact that they're nuts. The rest of them just end up sniffing crack, joining strange religions and trying to push their opinion on everybody as if we look up to them.

Who, other than 12 year olds really listens to pop culture icons and what they have to say?

In conclusion, All Hail the Great Watermelon
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Lol! People really want religion to be complicated, because if some more honest people can't get it, the ones who can pretend can claim moral and intellectual superiority. It's just a different kind of power struggle. I can give my religion in one sentence.

What we do for ourselves gives us pleasure, what we do for others gives us happiness.

or put another way,

Try not to be an ass hole.

Many religions make this truth hard to find by burying it way down in the list of priorities. It's too simple to serve the political ends that the most vocal supporters of any religion seek. It is more often about obedience, and not so much about truth I think.

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Right on Brother! I could not agree with you more.

FTF wrote..."Try not to be an asshole."

For those influenced into thinking that every "affirmation" must be stated in the positive...how 'bout: "Try to be a good person...creating as much pleasure in yourself/happiness in others as possible, whatever the situation."

How you guys do that "white box" thing to quote a previous post?

Well, what do you expect, the guy is an actor and a member of an extremist cult whose entire idealogy revolves around pseudoscience. He certainly doesn't have a degree in psychology or psychiatry and I'm sure little facts like neural imaging or clinical studies and peer reviewed journals would be lost on him.

[QUOTE=GarbagePailKid]Legend has it that the church of Scientology compiles lists of celebrity secrets, and waves the secrets over celebrities heads as blackmail: pay the church ridiculous sums of money to keep the secrets in their files. This legend is most probably false.
On the topic of celebrities and their weird beliefs,
I just can't wait to see Madonna unleash her Golem...she must have made one by now, what with her Kabbalistic talents. Man, Madonna will bring on the end of days. LOL!!!!

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What we do for ourselves gives us pleasure, what we do for others gives us happiness.

or put another way,

Try not to be an ass hole.

floofthegoof38533.2917939815I think that being rich and famous at a young age removes you from reality enough that you're very susceptible to goofy, made up religions. Especially ones that don't tread heavily on extreme vanity and self-imortance.I remember Mariah Carey once commented on genocidal famine in Africa to the effect that she might like to be in their position for enough days to get really skinny...but not to the point of the "bugs and stuff"

[QUOTE=shinsetu_hito]British accents just piss me off. [/QUOTE]

That's only because you can't do one.

I hate scientologists with my whole heart. This is not philosophical hatred. It is personal. I wandered into a scientologist place one day, because I was bored, and they gave me a silly quiz. The results of the quiz were low in some area. I asked the Scientology guy why it was so low- what it meant- and he said in a british accent:
"Frankly, it is because you are a bitch. "
Maybe I need scientology to fix my attitude. Resistance: have you ever read dianetics? It is very interesting reading if you are amused by wackos. It says that Scientology can cure blindness- blindness is not really a physical problem- it is your own fault if you are blind. It also says that about 95% (the percent might be a bit different- dont have the book on me) of people are alive despite their mothers secretly trying to abort them...

I read an interview when L. Ron Hubbard's son. He told many things about his father - freaky things. Things like L. Ron Hubbard was a satanist - seriously. He believed that HE was Satan and he kept trying to father the perfect Satan Child. He kept performing abortions on his wives. That was one of his son's first memories - he walked into his parent's room and his father was trying to perform an abortion on his mother... and that he learned that he was a failed abortion, he survived his father trying to abort him...

Horrible things.

And then this wacked out upper level belief they have about aliens possessing all of us. Downright strange... Just do a look on scientology under Yahoo or Google - you can find all this stuff.

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[QUOTE=shinsetu_hito]British accents just piss me off. [/QUOTE]

That's only because you can't do one.

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You British need to learn to embrace ignorance! Until then, your accent will always seem haughty to us Americans.

I will agree with Tom that psychiatry is a pseudoscience. However, there was a time when medicine itself was a pseudoscience. You can't have heart transplants and antibiotics until you've explored leeches and bloodletting. That's kinda where we are with psychiatry I think. For any given mental patient, I'd say there's a 90% chance that his psychiatrist isn't treating him the best way.

*So I told him that L. Ron Hubbard was a pedophile( HE WAS!..I think...)and got the hell out.
Excuse this ridiculous poll, but misplaced importance in celebrity opinions is a personal pet peeve. Tom Cruise's opinion matters less to me than my insane neighbor's opinion. At least my insane neighbor lives a regular life of sorts, Cruise and the rest of these ultra-rich mega-famous celebrities have NO contact to my world. LOL I agree why do people believe everything someone says just because they are a celebrity. Looking pretty on TV doesn't mean you can cure cancer.

[QUOTE=GarbagePailKid]and he said in a british accent:
"Frankly, it is because you are a bitch. "
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Not that there's anything wrong with a British accent, of course.

L. Ron Hubbard wrote fiction (and pulp science fiction at that), so what does that imply about the religion he wrote?

British accents just piss me off.

I remember somebody, barbara strisand or somebone saying they would leave the country if the people didn't vote her way in the last election. I wanted so badly to be the one who made the vote to make her GO!
(I will NOT discuss politics - older I get the less I care. But clebrities, ugh)
[QUOTE=GarbagePailKid]*So I told him that L. Ron Hubbard was a pedophile( HE WAS!..I think...)and got the hell out.
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How bitchy

Hee, it's just humor - it doesn't really piss me off.

[QUOTE=shinsetu_hito]Hee, it's just humor [/QUOTE]

Do they have that in Japan?

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[QUOTE=shinsetu_hito]Hee, it's just humor [/QUOTE]

Do they have that in Japan?

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No, not really.

Poor Tom! Nobody trusts his opinion. I am about ready to give him a sympathy vote.
Do you know that Beck is a scientologist?! That one surprised me for some reason.

[QUOTE=shinsetu_hito]British accents just piss me off. [/QUOTE]

Why is that?

[QUOTE=floofthegoof][QUOTE=Mark Goode]

[QUOTE=shinsetu_hito]British accents just piss me off. [/QUOTE]

That's only because you can't do one.

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You British need to learn to embrace ignorance! Until then, your accent will always seem haughty to us Americans.

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Interesting. Perhaps the current trend of having someone with an English accent playing the haughty, evil, scheming, bad guy in movies has something to do with it.

[QUOTE=abright1]I remember Mariah Carey once commented on genocidal famine in Africa to the effect that she might like to be in their position for enough days to get really skinny...but not to the point of the "bugs and stuff"[/QUOTE]

omg. haha
I'm not terribly fond of Scientology myself, especially after having two cousins (brothers) at different times committing suicide while in the 'church.' However, I've always liked John Travolta, so was quite disappointed when I learned way back when that he is member of Scientology.

My feelings of Ron Hubbard...

My feelings of British accents...

GypsyWomyn38531.5534722222I love British accents. Nothing like listening to someone chatter away in genuine Cockney English. Love it!

Of course, I grew up in Eastern Canada, where the regional accent is a very interesting mix of British, Irish, Canadian, and something else altogether.

If Tom Cruise has ADHD as people are mentioning, I think he has recently reached that "I'm bored so I gotta go wild" stage again. I seem to do a complete 360 every once in awhile myself, but try not to seem TOO strange as to not fit in anymore. Tom is a scientologist and that religion is part of all of his problems. L Ron Hubbard was a crackpot and filled many people with dianetics which was all a come on and a huge rip-off. His marriage ended because of it, as well as Lisa Marie Presley, she is a scientologist as well as John Travolta. It is sad because these money hungry leech religions feed off them and tell them what they want to hear and build that EGO wayyy out there, and provide them with escorts and other things to befriend them. They slowly drag them back into the circle by "brainwashing" them into thinking everyone is against them and that the only friend they have is the religion. I feel really bad for Tom as he has "bought" into this and it really is a sham. Tom is probably a great guy, but this misdirection is killing him. I am sure the scientologist have him defending things because he will get back on the "movie" and controversial list, as well as be center stage so his movies won't flop and so he can attract attention for web hits. I am sure if you look up Tom Cruise on the internet, Scientology will appear at some point. I am also sure Nicole took him for bunches of money and he needs to make movies to pay for both his bills that he has always had..... ..... Women and Scientology. Preaching is what the majority of religions do.

Remember, there is no such thing as mental illness, only unbalanced space ghosts who are clinging to your physical shell (btw, this costs scientologists mucho $$$$$$$ to discover), and only L Ron Hubbard and his minions are 'clear' enough to play ET Ghostbusters to FIX you.

Before we rail on incorporate alien believers too much lets just remember that 60% of americans believe that evolution is "too complicated to have occurred by chance" and believe in creationism/intelligent design.

And these people are the ones that govern what your children can study in school. At least I dont have warning stickers on my medication saying "Psychological illness is just one theory of how things might be. Be open to other ideas" which is exactly what some states are starting to pressure schools to place on science text books.

Pseudoscience is dangerous from any cult. But celebrity whack jobs I can deal with. They get the airtime so you dont hear from the fundie whack jobs who are writing new laws based on scripture rather than scientific evidence, and actively promoting ignorance in ways that allow the general public to destroy their lives thru faulty, inaccurate data.

Lets take a look at the list: abortions cause cancer, condoms do not protect against STDs - only abstinence works, evolution is "just a theory" and as valid as any other theory - especially intelligent design, global warming is not occurring there is no data to say that it is, the 'morning after pill' allows for habitual abortions, --- all based on religious beliefs (some not even in scripture).

Remember, there are those currently in the senate and congress who believe that it is their job to bring about the last days so they can get to the rapture and get off this rock.

But yeah, I'll keep worrying about Tom Cruise damaging the progress of modern psychotherapy.

Sorry, meds wearing off and rebounding and totally ************ on this subject.
Honestly I don't care what religion someone is. Personally I don't buy into religion they are all the same to me so arguing benefits of one over another seems pointless.

My philosophy is simple. You can worship the toaster if you want to. That is your right and I'd fight to ensure you have that right. That is your choice for your life and I respect that. But don't turn around and preach to me or expect me to have the same beliefs. Not only is it rediculous to assume everyone should be the same, it is downright rude to constantly bother and try to force your views onto others.

From the pattern I've seen (and of course there are exceptions to everything) but speaking from personal experience religious people (from any religion) seem to be much more close minded then non religious people. Tom Cruise is just the latest example. He'll believe and preach about anything his religion tells him and scorn those who have opposing views.

LOL ok so obviously religion bugs me a lot more then Tom Cruise

I was acosted by a scientology freak at the mall . The sprung for a kiosk with Tom Cruses money. He only told me and his minion that I was just born to be a contrarian. Like that was supposed to make me mad or something. viva la resistance'

This whole issue has been driving me NUTS!! I've been stalking the sites these kooks hang in ("ritalindeath.com" for one) and picking fights. I'd never conceived there was so many of them!!

I actually was in another ADHD forum when I saw a pro dexedrine post I had made was forwarded to a group I'd never heard of before. I went to a link in the forward and found it was an anti drug site. They believe allergies cause ADHD - and it's merely a allergic child/adult going through this.

I told them rest assured I am NOT allergic. They said - well, you never took "our" "delayed allergy" test. OUR - note that. $$$$$$$ cha ching!!!

Well, impossible to reason. I was called a "redneck" by one lady after I continued to reply to her emails with my opinion, telling her I agree to disagree but would like to talk further. Once she noticed I was NOT going to fall to my knees apologizing for being sooooooooooooo wrong she didn't want to play!

Argh

Well, I like to discuss. I like to debate. I even enjoyed being called a "redneck" (not bad for a liberal CANADIAN with a 190 IQ). But if you really want to win an argument - don't chat with these people. You are simply wrong and much like xtians (those of that mind plug yer ears please) they are here to make you see the error or your ways and convert - sinner!!

I love to hear all ways of dealing with pretty much anything. I'm not a "bigot" - though I get called that if I disagree with someone. I'm not against kids - in fact I love them and wish better lives and all they deserve - yet I get called a "child murderer" if you can grasp that.

I now have a very thick skin thanks to my good therapy and good meds. I eat mainly rice and fish - I abhor sugar and don't even own any. I don't gorge on wheat, red meat, "bad bad fatty acids" or pretty much anything! I can assure them til time ends that my diet is not the problem. They assure me it is.

Tom Cruise is an ignorant pratt. L. Ron Hubbard was a hack sci-fi writer (anyone actually read Battlefield Earth or - ugh - seen that awful flick with John Travolta??). Scientology is about as scientific or religious as that memorable group of jello-shot drinking, sneaker-wearing castrati who "went off to the spaceship behind the moon". Remember folks?

I may be open minded but I am truly bothered when people try to restrict access to something so useful (especially for children), with no more than their theory and some anecdotal evidence. Maybe it's not perfect but neither is insulin - and I bet we'd all be pissed if someone tried to tell us not to give a child with diabetes that.

I'm sure I've ticked off people. You can be sure of that. But maybe we all have to stick up for what WE know! I'm a user of these powerful but - and yes I know it is - dangerous medications. Yet, I'd be a lesser man if I just tried to limit myself to eating moss from under rocks and pray to dead space aliens to remove the curse of ADHD.

I dunno - I just had to rant there. Sorry people if I carried on.

Oh, anyone who may be interested in a chuckle or two I saved a couple of the emails during a purge of them - just for laughs and to remind myself that you can't win almost any argument with someone so set in their ways - especially around this one. Let me know and I'll send a few to the interested before I wipe them off.