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   I once had clinical depression.People stay "depressed because they are depressed."The way out is to try and improve a little each day.

  People with depression need something to stirr their soul.I reccomend Christian worship.

                                                                                      

 

God blessed us with the illness...Thanks God

And I think Christ would be a bit dusty after 2000 years....

Please read the Q'Um Ran letters

Look inside yourself...do not grasp religious straws before you have sorted yourself out...

 

 

Sometimes, depression is a serious illness that cannot be
cured through positive thinking. It can certainly help, but if
someone has a serious chemical imbalance in their brain, then
they require professional help, and medication.

If you have a chemical imbalance in your brain, that's no
different to having high cholesterol, or a thyroid hormone
deficiency, etc. People need to realise that clinical depression
is a *real* illness. It's not just something you can snap out of. [QUOTE=Rinner]I was informed for years by my 'christian teachers' that I was...

1. Bad.
2. Stupid.
3. Homosexual.
4. Evil.
5. Worthless.

Im sorry, but any reference to anything Christian makes me shudder. In fact I blame alot of my problems today on those teachers..


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I hear ya! I went to Christian Schools for years and had the same experience.  As a result, my new infant child will not be explosed to ANY religion until he's old enough to grasp what it means, and know the difference between a religion and a cult (pretty much all evangelical xianity).



Taverner38168.7755671296

We are stupid, evil and worthless because we don't see things the way you do?

 

[QUOTE=sunflour]

 

Its rather easy to blame our teachers(and everyone else for that matter) for being Bad, Stupid, Evil and Worthless when in fact we ARE all of those things if we don't have God.

Even a computer is a pile of metal without its programmer

[/QUOTE] I was informed for years by my 'christian teachers' that I was...

1. Bad.
2. Stupid.
3. Homosexual.
4. Evil.
5. Worthless.

Im sorry, but any reference to anything Christian makes me shudder. In fact I blame alot of my problems today on those teachers..


Whoops, made a mistake. Deleting my post. 
bluebird3838226.5735416667[QUOTE=barb]

As a Christian, I want to apologize to all of you who have been hurt by so called Christians. There is a difference between being religious and having a relationship with Jesus Christ, which is true Christianity. Religious people tend to be very judgmental and critical, although they won't admit to that. A person who has a relationship with Christ will not throw stones because we recognize that we all sin. We may disagree with a lifestyle choice and point out that a certain behavior is wrong but it isn't because we think we are better, ever! It is because we love everyone and don't want to see anyone pay the penalty or consequences of their sin. Jesus died on the cross for us because of our sin and it is hypocrital to judge someone else for theirs. If you disagree about whether something is a sin, it is your right, but we would not be showing love if we didn't point it out. What we wouldn't do is continue to ride you about it.

The older I get, the more I realize that few people are genuinely lazy or bad. There are so many illnesses which result in symptoms that have a negative impact on society but which are easier to label than to diagnose and treat. It is the same way with saying someone is stupid. People learn in different ways and it is way too easy to label someone stupid rather than to find their learning styles and teach them that way.

God has healed me of some things and there are other things which I would love to see healed but He has chosen not to. I have had people label me because of both of those things. I can't be both a lip service Christian without faith and a strong, mature believer. They are totally opposite ends of the spectrum here.

Now to get back to the original purpose of the thread. Cadwallader, you are right. Praise and worship do often help alleviate depression symptoms but there is a clinical depression which needs medication. I have experienced both and it only makes things worse when well meaning people tell me I just don't praise enough or believe strongly enough. God gave man the ability to develop meds and to diagnose symptoms. I truly believe that it is up to us to determine which method is necessary for our health, and that it is often a combination of the two. Yes, even when I am clinically depressed, worship does help me feel better. The depression never goes completely away though until I take the meds.

If anyone wishes to discuss Christianity with me further, feel free to PM me and I will be happy to arrange a way to discuss it. This forum just isn't the place for an argument about religion. I will discuss it but I will not be put in the position of defending myself or my beliefs for anyone's amusement.

[/QUOTE]  I just wanted to let everyone know that I have a had one of the worst childhoods ever and now I am a parent of 3 boys. My older 2 were just diagnosed with adhd and I'm having the time of my life dealing with it. I have been so depressed at times of my life where I craved death like you would an ice cream sandwich or something....anyways my point is....I don't know how I'm still going but on most days I handle it pretty well I think. I know I'm depressed but I'm strong and I won't let it bring me down. I believe if I tell myself enough that I'm happy and I'm gonna come through all this ok then eventually it will happen. I don't know...just my opinion.

 

Its rather easy to blame our teachers(and everyone else for that matter) for being Bad, Stupid, Evil and Worthless when in fact we ARE all of those things if we don't have God.

Even a computer is a pile of metal without its programmer

Wow!  I am out here looking for serious information and it amazes me that I come to find people with so much anger inside to quarrel about religion.  Is religion the true root of all evil?  Or is it those whom can't find happiness decide to bring all others down with them?

As a Christian, I want to apologize to all of you who have been hurt by so called Christians. There is a difference between being religious and having a relationship with Jesus Christ, which is true Christianity. Religious people tend to be very judgmental and critical, although they won't admit to that. A person who has a relationship with Christ will not throw stones because we recognize that we all sin. We may disagree with a lifestyle choice and point out that a certain behavior is wrong but it isn't because we think we are better, ever! It is because we love everyone and don't want to see anyone pay the penalty or consequences of their sin. Jesus died on the cross for us because of our sin and it is hypocrital to judge someone else for theirs. If you disagree about whether something is a sin, it is your right, but we would not be showing love if we didn't point it out. What we wouldn't do is continue to ride you about it.

The older I get, the more I realize that few people are genuinely lazy or bad. There are so many illnesses which result in symptoms that have a negative impact on society but which are easier to label than to diagnose and treat. It is the same way with saying someone is stupid. People learn in different ways and it is way too easy to label someone stupid rather than to find their learning styles and teach them that way.

God has healed me of some things and there are other things which I would love to see healed but He has chosen not to. I have had people label me because of both of those things. I can't be both a lip service Christian without faith and a strong, mature believer. They are totally opposite ends of the spectrum here.

Now to get back to the original purpose of the thread. Cadwallader, you are right. Praise and worship do often help alleviate depression symptoms but there is a clinical depression which needs medication. I have experienced both and it only makes things worse when well meaning people tell me I just don't praise enough or believe strongly enough. God gave man the ability to develop meds and to diagnose symptoms. I truly believe that it is up to us to determine which method is necessary for our health, and that it is often a combination of the two. Yes, even when I am clinically depressed, worship does help me feel better. The depression never goes completely away though until I take the meds.

If anyone wishes to discuss Christianity with me further, feel free to PM me and I will be happy to arrange a way to discuss it. This forum just isn't the place for an argument about religion. I will discuss it but I will not be put in the position of defending myself or my beliefs for anyone's amusement.

barb38176.3578935185 [QUOTE=sunflour]

 

Its rather easy to blame our teachers(and everyone else for that matter) for being Bad, Stupid, Evil and Worthless when in fact we ARE all of those things if we don't have God.

Even a computer is a pile of metal without its programmer

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while i think there must be something of importance. the christian "god" most people belive in doesn't work so well for me.

sunday morning christians. f**k em
[QUOTE=luckyinlove]

Wow!  I am out here looking for serious information and it amazes me that I come to find people with so much anger inside to quarrel about religion.  Is religion the true root of all evil?  Or is it those whom can't find happiness decide to bring all others down with them?

[/QUOTE] Amen! I found leaving my first husband lifted my depression immediately

[QUOTE=mandy24] I just wanted to let everyone know that I have a had one of the worst childhoods ever and now I am a parent of 3 boys. My older 2 were just diagnosed with adhd and I'm having the time of my life dealing with it. I have been so depressed at times of my life where I craved death like you would an ice cream sandwich or something....anyways my point is....I don't know how I'm still going but on most days I handle it pretty well I think. I know I'm depressed but I'm strong and I won't let it bring me down. I believe if I tell myself enough that I'm happy and I'm gonna come through all this ok then eventually it will happen. I don't know...just my opinion.[/QUOTE]

I think that is what healing is about - having faith, whether it be in God, in yourself, in someone you love, in a job - having faith and a desire to keep keeping on.  You are all right Religion has caused many problems and critical depression.  I am quite unique in that a close relation of mine was sexually abused by a brother at our catholic school, he was the principal mind you.  I was taught the fire and brimstone stuff and abused by nuns.

But I still have faith - I would not call it ideally Catholic but it is faith.  Noing that I am not perfect and yet good enough to feel okay is what keeps my head up.  Nobody can take from me my dignity (woohoo Whitney Houstan).

I love affirmations and positive thoughts and post them on my toilet door.  There are all types of faith and believing in something, in my opinion, does keep depression at arms length.

 

OKay. This is a board about getting better, feeling better, and trying things that have been seen as a little radical  (afterall,  how many mainstream Drs do you know that offer up SJW as treatment before they hand out scripts for Paxil, Luvox, and some other stuff)...

 

I am here, just surfing on through,  and cant help but say that those of you who find fault with Christianity so much so that you have to vent and be angry are likely going to find fault with a lot of other stuff,  too.  "cant we all just get along' isnt what I mean.  Those who blame their teachers for not learning,  those who blame false prophets,  false Christians,  and then blame the rest of us for being fishers of men are perhaps a little lost.  maybe.  I shall not judge. Perhaps the happiness you are seeking can be helped along with God.  Christ.  And perhaps until you are ready to reach out for something you cannot buy,  cannot grow in your garden, you will notice that He has always been there for you.  He will be there always. 

So-  in the mean time, try to curb some of that anger,  try to stop blaming your diagnosis, your teacher,  some chemicals that you are missing, and try using something you can benefit from- try some human kindness,  some compassion.  Being decent and not so angry is a part of your healing.

Hi I am a life coach expert who specializes in helping people with ADD and depression. I think positive thinking can work wonders but it should never be assumed that positive thinking alone can take the place of medicine if it's needed.

  I find the most important step to curing depression in clients is to start taking action. Go outside and take a walk in the sunshine, give yourself a scalp massage, cook an exotic new recipe for dinner to wake up your senses, try St. John's Wort supplements, start engaging in aerobic exercise on a daily basis, wear your best outfit.

  One great trick I teach my clients is to ask themselves:
'How would I be acting today if I weren't depressed?" Would you be dressing in your best clothes, calling a friend, going to a new restaurant for lunch? Then, go ahead and do those things. Fake it until you make it as the old saying goes.

   And consider hiring a personal coach to help you get on the right path and let the sunshine steam in.

Michele Glance Rooney

Lifecoachexpert@aol.com