QUITTING ADDERALL PROBLEMS | ADHD Information

Thank you GlenW for once again putting the right information out there It is critical that people have accurate information about ADHD medications in order to make informed decisions. People should never make decisions based on fear and when people have the wrong information, that is more likely to happen

I just wanted to add that if there was a phsycial dependancy to the medication ADHD patients wouldn't forget to take their meds as they sometimes do. My son has been taking Adderall for 3 years. He doesnt have a mental or physical dependancy. When one is addicted the body craves the substance thus, reminds the brain so there is no forgetting. Unfortunately, many times blame is pLaced at the doorstep of ADHD meds based on misnformation and propaganda

Wow I'm truly shocked at the number of people who are becoming dependent on adderall all the time. I hope this website helps me quit using it, because now I cannot keep telling myself that the things that are happening to me aren't because of adderall.

I started taking it about a year ago. I had tried it plenty of times before from my friends and I was in a down patch, in my junior year at college, and I got prescribed. I knew I was being foolish then, but I told myself I wouldn't take it for long....
But what we need to keep in mind is that adderall is the chemical cousin of cocaine.

I'm only prescribed 20ml a day, and I don't usually take it all.
I have bad skin now, which before I only had the occasional zit. I'm 22 and in the past year I have seen bags start to form under my eyes, my smile line wrinkles have deepened, due to the poor sleep, and the fact the meds absorb a considerable amount of your nutrients. I have a lip biting problem, so you can only imagine how magnified that got. Last night, in my sleep (or I should say half-sleep) I almost bit straight through my lip. And because of all the biting, fumbling, grinding, my teeth have started to wear down. My hair is thinner. I've missed periods. I've started eating fattier foods, because when I am hungry, I'm starving and digestive system doesn't handle the vegtables I would normally eat very well. I've been less likely to go out with friends. I have become a work-a-holic. And most importantly I had an increase in high-blood pressure, and I find my breath is very shallow sometimes, and my heart feels like it is palpatating most of the time. And I am 22 yr old , 120lbs., strict vegitarian, I barely eat dairy! and I don't smoke cigarettes. AND,
I'm only prescribed 20ml a day, and I don't usually take it all!!!
and I don't want to know what it's doing for the long term effects of my liver.

This drug is deteriorating us. So, I'm going to urge myself and others not to give into the dependancy. I know the pluses, or else I wouldn't be taking it. I am more organized than ever, I have found incredible inspirations, and things about myself.
And maybe I have to thank adderall for getting me on track, but I don't think I could ever feel quite right about my successes if I don't wean myself off this drug. Then we can take the working ethics we've learned an achieve them at our own will.
I've got to believe I can still come back to the me before this chemical.
And sometimes I have to ask myself if I'm really getting all that much work done when I am so hoped up on speed I'm ziq-zagging all over the place?

Things I've found helpful in trying to lower my intake:

-Only taking 5ml or 10ml to get you out of bed, I promise even for you on a higher dose---it helps

-Coffee, Coffee, Coffee. I know some may be thinking:"ya right, that doesn't even effect me anymore." But not only is it a simulant, it is a natural laxitive (If you drink a big cup of strong coffee and can't go there is something wrong with your diet) and it curves hunger a little. But I wouldn't recommend coffee if you are taking your full dosage, as it will only make you more jittery, dehydrated, sweaty, and more stimulants for your brain/liver/whole body to process.

-I haven't lost a lot of weight since I've been taking adderall, luckily I got down to a good size before then, and I did so solely on diet, trust me excersise had little to do with it, and I can't imagine how fit I would be if I did work out a couple hours a week. But I just continue a vegetarian, high-fiber diet. I promise there are ways to prepare veggie healthy meals that aren't leafy, flavorless, expensive, or hard to make. You just have to know the right products. If you want some reciepes feel free to e-mail me: Mandaphace@yahoo.com

-don't keep your med next to your bed. When we wake up we're still grogy, this isn't because you have ADD, it is because everyone is the moment that alarm goes off.
If you just sit up for a minute you'll start to wake up. maybe buy a coffee maker with a timer so you'll know there is fresh coffee waiting for you, giving you a reason to get-up.

-If you live with someone who you can trust, let them hold on to it, so you have to actually ask for it.

-Everyone should wean themselves off, you never now how you could react it you just quit, especially when driving.
I will admit I would have never taken the time to write something this long for some discussion forum of I hadn't been on adderall, then again I would never of had to.
But I did have to, because this website has made me not able to turn my head any longer and keep saying tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow. And I wanted to contribut for people in the future who click here and read this hoping to find one more reason to quit.
I have known many lost in a fog of the false reality of medications and I have to admit I've been slipping away too.
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Oh yeah, I wanted to try an anti-depressant instead but after I read about all the weight gain it worried me. Then I read about Wellbutrin...however, I read several times that it as well causes anxiety....darn.

~GP

[/QUOTE] If you have anxiety I wouldnt recommend Wellbutrin. I have an axiety disorder along with adhd and was put on wellbutrin. Made my skin crawl at first and after giving it time to see if the side effect would go away ended up in the psych ward with substance-induced mania/psycosis. I had to stay for 4 days and I wasnt awake for 3 of them. I am not saying that this will happen with you but if you and your doctor decide to try it and you feel your skin crawling then stop taking it immediatley. Good luck [QUOTE=WOWjustWOW] Wow I'm truly shocked at the number of people who are becoming dependent on adderall all the time. I hope this website helps me quit using it, because now I cannot keep telling myself that the things that are happening to me aren't because of adderall."
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If you are being totally honest and sticking to 20mg doses I can assure you that unless you are allergic to something in the adderall, you aren't addicted. No addict could stay at a legal, safe dose for long as the adderall becomes tolerated over time.

A lot of what you describe sounds like depression and anxiety. You mention being concerned that nutrients are being removed by your meds. They aren't. As a matter of fact the only indicated troubles with nutrients is causing trouble FOR the adderall not by the adderall. Depression and anxiety can, however, be worsened by stimulants. I would go to your MD and get an evaluation set up. Most likely you have some clinical disorder like depression or anxiety and a change of meds would likely help.

All I can tell you is what you describe isn't physical dependence. It really isn't mental either as you'd likely up the dose to get "a buzz" as most do. Your case may differ but my gut feeling is that you are barking up the wrong tree. Getting help should be first on your mind.
I started taking Adderall last week and for me, so far, it has been a God send. I'm 23 but I have struggled with ADHD my entire life without knowing what it truly was. I always felt like there was something wrong with me and that I would spend my entire life struggling to focus and dealing with the other personal issues that come along with it. I was very, very reluctant about being prescribed Adderall because of the "speed-like" side-effects. I am a small girl already and I have no desire to lose anymore weight. I immediately noticed a dramatic change in my ability to focus on school work. Last week I had midterms and I breezed through them like I have never been able to in the past. I only take 15mg twice a day so I don't know if the low dose helps reduce the side-effects.

The only things that I have noticed are I am itchy and I can't sleep. But, I've dealt with the sleep issue for a long time, so it's not that big of a deal for me.

Also, I noticed some postings about anxiety. I also suffer from that and about 2 years ago my mom recommended that I try Serzone. I did and it worked wonders for me. I believe it's actually under the anti-depressant category and I also realize that all medications will effect everyone differently. The only negative part is that it is a black box medication. I haven't had any problems with it though. If you decide to try it you should probably ask to have your liver enzymes checked regularly just to make sure everything stays within normal range. It worked for me overnight.

I wish you all the best of luck!

So, it is an antidepressant?

I may try it.

Will it make me tired?

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So, it is an antidepressant?

I may try it.

Will it make me tired?

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I'm 99% positive that Serzone is classified as an anti-depressant. It's never made me tired. I'm not sure if that's a side effect or not. If you ask for it your Dr. may be reluctant to give it to you though because of the warning label. I tried Prozac first and it made me incredibly angry, then I tried Wellbutrin which only added to my anxiety. Serzone has worked wonders for my anxiety. Good luck!
i've been taking adderall for almost eight years..and the only thing i experiance is the dependancy..not the scratching and stuff

I was curious, Ritalin users, esp. those who have used Adderal (preferably XR)and switched, if you think that the Ritalin helps better with concentration and focus, most of the time?

I know we all our different. But maybe alittle bit of advice for anyone who may be able to answer?

I am going to get off all stimulants if Adderall 5mg XR doesn't do the trick or at a last resort try Ritalin at most 5 to 10 mg. My Dr. wanted me to try Concerta but it is too long lasting for me, I have heard it interupts sleep too much.

I guess, I won't know unless I try to up dose to prescribed dosage of 10mg of Adderall a day then go from there. I hate the Testing phase though, its hard to know what is the right thing to do.

I have dermatographia too. It sucks. I came down with it almost a year ago, right around the time I started back on Ritalin. I am now on Adderall and it didnt go away. To manage it I take 10mg of Loratidine everyother day. I dont have attacks nearly as much as without it. Loratidine is over the counter. Other names for it is Claritin or Alavert. I use the CVS brand. Good luck.I have been on adderall now for 4 years and had to get off of it twice (once being pregnant and the other going into a paritial hospitalization for an eating disorder, not adderall induced) and infact most of the symptoms bad and good have disapated. However the effects still work the same for me (concentration, focus, etc). I can sleep like there's no tomorrow, I actually gained alot of weight as it doesn't influence my appetite as in did in the beginning, which I loved, my tics went down quite abit, but then so did my stress level....however, if I don't take my adderall I will sleep for days at a time. I am sure I am withdrawing from the drug. I don't feel like I am dying or anything but even in the mornings I am soooo useless until I take my adderall. I have always had a hard time waking up and it doesn't help that I am sure I am withdrawing and so tired. I just also got put on wellbutrin for my depression. Also the weight gain that i suffered was from being in a outpatient intensive program for my ED and I was over eating and binging ontop of my food plan...and that's WITH taking adderall. Hopefully the wellbutrin will have me lose some weight now. I sure miss what it use to do with the appetite. Anyways, I am just writing to say that I don't hear too much of people who's symptoms disappear like mine. At least it works like it's suppose to. Wondering if my body just is dependant on it and I built up a tolerance to it. Not sure. Please respond if you have an idea on this! THanksI was having horrible problems with anxiety ever since i started on ADD meds. First i tried concerta and it drove me into the depths of a horrible depression so i switched to adderall XR. Recently I'd been getting horribly anxious and suicidal for no good reason at all. I don't really think the adderall is to blame, it just drives people with anxious tendencies into a corner.

I've been on cymbalta for the past couple of days and it's really helped, but i also suspected that the XR was harmful because the medicine lasts so long. It's just so easy to get worked up over a period of 12 or so hours.

So I got my psychiatrist to prescribe the cheaper non-controlled release form of adderall and its been really nice to be able to be a work zombie for about 4 hours and then just enjoy the rest of my day.

Generalized anxiety disorder and other anxiety disorders seem to be laughed off as though they were imagined by its victims. People need to see their doctors about compulsive behavior or irrational anxiety because there actually are pretty effective medicines out there to deal with them in combination with ADD meds.
Hey....being a mom is hard stuff...After reading your post, I thought man someone else...A few years ago, my son had extra addrall,so I tried on...MMMMM yummy,it was great. Then when summer came, I always took him off anyway, but that summer I kept filling them, for MYSELF. Then I decieded to talk to my DR. as a kid my brother was in special ed and I had a learning disabiltiy....so I thought ummm maybe I have ADD too. They didn't ask many questions and boom 40 mg of addrall. That was a year ago. I'm starting to get scared that in a few I will be regretting it. But as of now....I can get things done, I feel more clear...most the time!!! I do feel like I'm a little bit of a homebody more...."people" really bug me. I work full time @ work I'm fun and bubbly...but when I get home...watch out. I'm a little grumpy...I thought it was just me getting older and having alot on my plate...maybe it's the PILLS

Holy crap I dont wanna be a pill head!! I do like vicoden..KIDDING

I'm gonna chim in here again briefly. Only to reiterate the point I made about self-regulating the meds so we don't become so dependent or addicted to them.

I had no choice. I HAD to made it work for me. It was scary realizing how dependent/addicted I could become. Hell yea it makes life easier - I'm a mom of a 4 & 6 year old and having ADD doesn't make ANYTHING easy.

The euphoria and wonderful feelings Adderall provides is actually only a nice side-affect. But it does go away and the medication STILL does work without it. We just think we have to feel euphoric for it to be working. So as we develop a tollerance, there is always a need/desire for MORE. I don't take it to feel good, and it took a while for me to realize that too. I take it to help me see clearly and organize the overwhelming tasks I have to do.

A combination of inner strenght and insight, willpower, and not allowing the self-doubt take over my emotions has helped me self-regulate my meds.

Also, it never did help me lose weight. But I take Remeron also so I think they cancel each other out!

Well, I just want to say I really appreciate everyones input. It's nice to have a place to go and talk about problems without actually having to see "face to face"...it has helped! I am just wondering though, is it possible to actually die from stopping adderall so "cold turkey"??? Because I know there will be side effects, but god I have NEVER felt so awful!!!! I am having panic attacks, crying attacks, my whole world seems like a dream or something right now and it's freaking me out? Am I going to actually drive myself so crazy that I could possibly die??? Cause I feel that way! Is this a stupid question? God I can't believe I've become this.....I am soooo ashamed. [QUOTE=Melmarie]Well, I just want to say I really appreciate everyones input. It's nice to have a place to go and talk about problems without actually having to see "face to face"...it has helped! I am just wondering though, is it possible to actually die from stopping adderall so "cold turkey"??? Because I know there will be side effects, but god I have NEVER felt so awful!!!!

I worked in a detox for a while. The two drugs that kill you in detoxification are alcohol and valium. The rest just make you FEEL like you're dying [including heroin]

Make sure you're replacing fluids frequently and also, if you can't keep down food--get some of that supplement with vitamins and potassium for babies. Gatorade is good as is Ensure. You want to cut down the withdrawal symptoms. Even good old kool aid can help if it's the pre-mixed with potassium added. Water it down to cut the citrus, though.

I am having panic attacks, crying attacks, my whole world seems like a dream or something right now and it's freaking me out? Am I going to actually drive myself so crazy that I could possibly die??? Cause I feel that way! Is this a stupid question?

It's not a stupid question. It's a valid one. When did you stop taking stimulants? How many days now?

You aren't going crazy. You're in withdrawal. It's a physical reality affecting your mental state because the chemicals are trying to come into balance again--they're peaking and dropping all over the place.

It sux--really. It feels just as bad as you are saying it does. When the physical withdrawal stops you'll 'get the buzz' and believe the whole world is marvelous and God loves you personally etc. etc. That too will pass--just so you know it's a phase and be prepared.

Later, we need to talk about what you're going to do when you're feeling vulnerable so you don't have to go through this again. K?

God I can't believe I've become this.....I am soooo ashamed.

I'm sure you do feel ashamed.

I believe you are trying with all your heart to do the right thing and that's nothing to be ashamed of. As one of the mom's here calls it "you're having a 'do over"--you're trying to correct something and 'do it over'.

Hang in there. I'll be watching to see how you're managing.

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I worked in a detox for a while. The two drugs that kill you in detoxification are alcohol and valium. The rest just make you FEEL like you're dying [including heroin]

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Metis,

You sound very knowledgeable in this area and compassionate. I appreciate reading your posts and especially your concern for those that need help.

I do have a question for you. At what amount, quantity or MG's of Valium (diazepam) would one have to take to go through such a horrible detox. I do take valium, 10 mgs. about 4 or 5 days a week. I do have other options but it works the best for me and I never feel I have to continue to take more than the 10 mgs to receive the same affect.

I ask because obviously your post about alcohol and valium raised my eyeballs a bit.

Thanks

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Hi-

Adderall is so helpful for executing/focusing/getting stuff done but I'm afraid of this stuff. I take it only rarely, but I feel like it messes up my brain for a few days after- more prone to depression, and it's like my ADD gets worse.

Does this happen to anyone else? Perhaps I should try Ritalin? Or maybe I should take Adderall indefinitely, for the rest of my life? Maybe I should, because my life without the meds isn't all that great anyways (financial/relationship/self-esteem problems)....

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Some people do have 'crashing' from stims--it depends on your personal chemistry. Does your doc know how you are using it?

Another med you can take more regularly might be more helpful to you.

Low doses shouldn't cause major withdrawal--and adderal withdrawal feels bad but won't actually hurt you. And again--what would cause it in one person, won't in another.

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Or maybe I should take Adderall indefinitely, for the rest of my life? Maybe I should, because my life without the meds isn't all that great anyways (financial/relationship/self-esteem problems)....[/QUOTE]

Hi Dan,

Here's my contribution to your situation because I've been there and know how it feels. Sometimes it feels like we will never see past the black cloud surrounding our head, but I got through it and this is how I did it:

Start with the core issue first; self-esteem. Get to the bottom of that. A therapisit, counselor, or someone who can help dig up a part of your past (childhood neglect, trauma, or maybe a specific incident) and help you work with those issues that make you feel so unworthy. Sometimes when the deeply personal issues are addressed then healed FIRST, then the rest (relationships, financial, etc.) just fall into place - a better place.

One thing to do that helps one feel better about oneself is to go out of your way to do something nice and unexpected for someone else. Holidays are coming. Do you know of a person who might be alone? Or perhaps a family who cannot afford the basic of things. Think of a guesture or an act of kindness you can provide in the form of donations, food, children's toys, anything. Better yet, become a volunteer with one of those organizations. One of my favorites are helping with children but especially volunteering and donating to animal shelters. They could use many things like pet food, blankets, etc. Look in your local newspaper. There should be a section on volunteers needed in different areas. Or call the local animal shelters or churches or food banks and ask what they need.

You get the idea. Pull your self outta your behind and look forward and actually visualize what you CAN accomplish - not just for you but for others that try to live a daily, normal life with much LESS than you.

Good luck.

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Metis,

You sound very knowledgeable in this area and compassionate. I appreciate reading your posts and especially your concern for those that need help.

Thank you

Benzodiazapams MUST be tapered. Don't just jump off them or quit quickly.

A couple of things about benzos [valium, lorezepam etc.] anyone taking them should know.

the half life is generally 3 days. That means for three days you STILL have some in your system.[In your case, if you are taking them every second day, the day before's dose is still in your body when you are taking the next dose]If you are taking 10 mg I doubt you'd have to taper because the dose is not large but if it was ME --I would because it whacks out the brain chemicals. In other words, Monday 10mg, Wednesday, 5mg, Friday 10 mg etc etc for a few weeks then go to 5mg 3x per week and 10 mg when you feel shaky.If you are attempting to get off benzos and begin to get shaky, sweat, or go grey--either go to emerg and tell them [preferable] or if that can't be done--take one NOW because it takes 20mins+ metabolism time.
Valium withdrawal can cause seizures which is why withdrawing without medical supervision and tapering can be dangerous.
If you are taking a larger dose of valium and want to detox--get tapered by someone who specializes in it. If they feel it's necessary they will send you to a detox for medical supervision. The same if you are trying to withdraw from a high daily alcohol consumption.The main issue with benzos is that when life becomes difficult people tend to take MORE than they did to get calmed down. If you find yourself doing this, talk to your doctor.

I ask because obviously your post about alcohol and valium raised my eyeballs a bit.

The "gateway" drug isn't marjiuana--it's alcohol

Thanks

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Hi-

I am a mother to two boys 13 and 6. My 13 year old son was diagnosed with adhd a while ago...He developed tics (trying to make long story short)...I have a blind boyfriend who has 3 children of his own, I work full time and decided one day to try my son's adderall. Well it was all over then....I had soooo much energy to handle all the stresses of the day and was focused. I got s**t done, paid attention to detail, and was able to "do it all". Problem was I started taking my sons script and he would be short, I feel like the worst person ever and if anyone agrees I understand and totally deserve it! After a while, I took my son off of it, not just for selfish reasons but because he was having his own issues on it. But it was a tad selfish too, shouldn't hold back now. I can't explain the guilt and shame I feel and yet I am dying inside. I continued filling his script and taking them myself....my son is now having problems again although doctors, and other professionals have said it is not from being off adderall...I however have kinda burnt my bridge of getting the script filled by letting our family doctor know I took my son off them. I am trying now seek the help for my son that he needs and that means being honest, although I haven't told anyone about my dependency on the drug, with exception of my boyfriend (just 2 days ago) who is disgusted with me and doesn't know how to handle this. I also like to drink and smoke. I am truly a good person who has had a lot of bad things happen in life and though I am depending on chemicals I feel as though I am a survivor in a lot of other aspects.....I'm still alive, aren't I? I really don't have a support system to help with kids or anything to get help with these problems. Thing is, what if I really am ADHD and need these pills? All I know is I'm out of the pills and I have never felt worse! I am sad, crying, sleepy, non-motivated, easily annoyed and taking it out on those closest to me. I've read all the posts and noticed people with the "picking" problem, well I am constantly biting, clipping, picking and edgy. I am soooo scared....I feel so alone...I want more pills...I cannot function without them...Now my kids are suffering to my moods...too tired to do anything...playing, quality time...my job is suffering....relationship...well that's something that could be suffering due to addiction or not....who knows????? My 13 year old has been referred to live in a residential program by more than one professional, but what if it's me?? God I love my kids...but although I am older than most people on this forum, I feel like a kid myself.....I don't know how to cope and I am TRULY scared...Please help!!!!!

I will give the same advice again. You have to go see some one. Forget if you are ADHD and can use meds to to get through your day, your addiction has to be dealt with first and foremost. Call your doctor and get help ASAP. No way to help your kids if you're not ok, and it sounds like you're not ok. Once this is under control tehre are plenty of non stimulant/non addictive options availabel now for ADHD if that is truly what you need. For now, get your addiction uner control and then go from there.I know I have to see someone....I have made an appt. for Nov. 29. I just have a history of getting "cold feet"...I'm scared of being judged as a "LOSER" or scared they'll take my kids or what if I get arrested or something because it's illegal to have been using my son's meds. Right now as I write this message, all I am thinking of is finding something I can take to give me the energy to make it through this day, which is already starting off very stressful and it's only 9:30 in the morning for god sake!!!! I'm so tired....soooo very tired.you are not going to lose your kids QUITTING the drugs, it's staying on them that is making things unsafe. [QUOTE=lovers62]

I'm going to try to address this--there's a great deal here.

Please read.. I've never needed help like this before.

During my freshman year of college many of my friends began taking adderall to help them juggle their demanding school and work schedules. Curiousity got the best of me and of course I tried it too. Natrually I found it amazing I was able concentrate on school work better than I ever have in my life while also being in the best mood I could imagine. However I stil head a good head on my shoulders and knew I shouldn't take it often in fear of addiction.

So you are now facing one of your greatest fears. You seem to be physically and emotionally dependent on an addictive substance. This will take time.

As the year went on and school got harder I began to take adderall more and more frequently. I'm not perscribed but being a college student adderall is passed around like skittles. Also I doubt I have ADD, I'm just an average student who can do well when I put my mind to it. When the semester ended I finished with a 4.0 which gave me this new found scholastic confidence to sign up for a difficult summer math class.

So your drug use has definitely brought some "positives" into your life? Weight loss, confidence and the ability to take on big challenges?

Since the math class was challenging I took adderall every day. I loved this new found motivation it gave me. I have never been more intelligent or creative in my life, not to mention skinny. I hardly realized until people mentioned to me that I look like skin and bones, and I can't say I dont really love it. Once the math class was over in the middle of the summer i started working at a daycare where i had to get up at 7 am, so natrually i justified taking adderall almost every day to give me energy to go to work. Even after my job ended I some how made it make sense it my head to take adderall to do dumb things like go shopping, or just as a pick me up cause I was in a sad mood.

So your substance use moved from casual to chaotic--by the end of your post it appears you are in the chronic ["i need it"] daily phase.

This brings me to where I am now. Starting my sophomore year of college and needing about 2-3 20 mg xr to get through a day of school. It all just hit me like a ton of bricks yesterday so I told myself i just wouldn't take any at all until i recieve a big homework assignment or test. Well today I lasted until about 2:30 PM when I felt sick to my stomach and really could not do a thing with out it.

Adderal is a stimulant. It can take anywhere from one week to a month for most withdrawal symptoms to dissipate. Symptoms can include gastric upset, depression and flu-like symptoms. Armed with this knowledge you need to PLAN when and if you want to remove it from your life.

I'm seriously at a loss of what to do. I can't live with out it, it helps me do so well in school and I'm sick of being a dissapointment. Also, I'm probably some what eating disorder crazy too, because im absolutely pertrified of gaining weight once I stop taking it. Not to mention the most important fact which is with out it I lay in my bed feeling sick.

I can't tell my parents because they will go insane. I can't tell my friends cause quite frankly I don't really have a best friend I can confide in anymore, which is why i resorted to this. If anyone can help me, or atleast talk to me for support I would appreciate it so much.

I'd prefer to discuss the rest of this in pm if you are comfortable with that. I worked with active drug users for many years, many of whom were mentally ill. Very little shocks me with prescription medications or street drugs.

I'd suggest a good harm reduction worker if you were in Canada but I'm at a loss in the USA. I'd like it very much if you googled HABIT SMART and let me know what you learned.

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I'm going to "organize" my response and your post a bit because I can see you're feeling chaotic

Can you remember what else was going on at the time?
Any major life changes?

Well it was all over then....I had soooo much energy to handle all the stresses of the day and was focused. I got s**t done, paid attention to detail, and was able to "do it all". Problem was I started taking my sons script and he would be short, I feel like the worst person ever and if anyone agrees I understand and totally deserve it!

You are not the worst person ever. Now, if I did up your backyard and find bodies we may discuss that as being valid You did something stupid and selfish--and we all do that sometimes. As long as you don't do that anymore--that's the important part.

After a while, I took my son off of it, not just for selfish reasons but because he was having his own issues on it. But it was a tad selfish too, shouldn't hold back now. I can't explain the guilt and shame I feel and yet I am dying inside. I continued filling his script and taking them myself....

You aren't the first nor the last to do this. You can work through all this and you've come this far. Let's go farther...

my son is now having problems again although doctors, and other professionals have said it is not from being off adderall...I however have kinda burnt my bridge of getting the script filled by letting our family doctor know I took my son off them. I am trying now seek the help for my son that he needs and that means being honest, although I haven't told anyone about my dependency on the drug, with exception of my boyfriend (just 2 days ago) who is disgusted with me and doesn't know how to handle this.

It's probably a shocker for him. Is he generally supportive?

I also like to drink and smoke. I am truly a good person who has had a lot of bad things happen in life and though I am depending on chemicals I feel as though I am a survivor in a lot of other aspects.....I'm still alive, aren't I?

Yes, you ARE and I'm glad you're here. Have you considered a full mental health assessment in case PTSD or other factors are weighing in on your ability to make healthy decisions?

I really don't have a support system to help with kids or anything to get help with these problems. Thing is, what if I really am ADHD and need these pills? All I know is I'm out of the pills and I have never felt worse! I am sad, crying, sleepy, non-motivated, easily annoyed and taking it out on those closest to me.

Adderal is a stimulant. When did you stop taking them? It takes anywhere from one week to a month [occasionally 6 weeks] to get over the withdrawal. Be kind to yourself right now--you ARE suffering physically. It will stop if you hang in there. Sleep as much as you can for a bit. Some ice teas and gatorade [high sodium/potassium] and plain cookies can help with the gastric upset.

I've read all the posts and noticed people with the "picking" problem, well I am constantly biting, clipping, picking and edgy. I am soooo scared....I feel so alone...I want more pills...I cannot function without them...Now my kids are suffering to my moods...too tired to do anything...playing, quality time...my job is suffering....relationship...well that's something that could be suffering due to addiction or not....who knows????? My 13 year old has been referred to live in a residential program by more than one professional, but what if it's me??

Let's talk about what your son needs later. First we have to get you through this so you can make decisions that can improve the quality of life for ALL of you.

God I love my kids...but although I am older than most people on this forum, I feel like a kid myself.....I don't know how to cope and I am TRULY scared...Please help!!!!!

Withdrawal WILL pass. It feels like dying and in a sense--the part of you that uses the substance may be dying. People don't take substances because the drugs feel bad--they take drugs because it makes them feel better. It's some of the results that feel bad.

You have a great deal on your plate and somehow, drugs or no, you've held much of it together. Grant yourself some credit. Tomorrow is another day.

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Please read.. I've never needed help like this before.

You need to go see someone. A psychologist who can help you get over the addiction and eating disorder.

You've made the first step by admitting you're having a problem, please seek professional help.

Dear Lovers62,

I was diagnosed with ADD and I am prescribed Adderall for it. I was almost in your position as I too was becoming dependent on it to function. I'm prescribed 30mg's a day and on some days would take up to almost 60 mgs but no more. It scared me that I could become so tollerant.

I am not a college student and the only place I can get Adderall is via prescription from my doctor. Therefore if i took more than my prescribed amount, I ran out and could not get more until my "30 days" were up. This forced me to self-regulate my medication - one way or another. I would taper down and/or take 2 - 5 day drug holidays. Nothing was easy but I managed to do it. Coffee, energy drinks, etc. Then finally acceptance without beating myself up mentally for not accomplishing what I felt I "should".

My question to you is how are you obtaining SO much that you can take up to 2 or 3 pills a day without a prescription? I know this may sound unrealistic to do or even try but see if you can get rid of your 'source' and, as Diane V said, try and find a psychologist or psychiatrist to help you with other options. Maybe your school has resources or referrals.

Then, and I know this has crossed your mind, you have to face the reality that you may never be able to take it again - this wonder drug that has helped you in so many ways - yet now has become detrimental. You will have to learn new ways to cope and function without it.

This was a HUGE ponderance for me that greately influenced my decision to self-regulate my medication. I DON'T want to give it up so I MUST stick with my prescribed dose, or less to keep it working for me.

Sure, I wish I had a 'source' especially now since I have a lot more willpower with the medication than before. But... but... It's a double-edged sword.

I don't know if my post helped but you are not alone in your situation. There are always other options and maybe you have to dig deep to find the appropriate strength within to help you get out.

I wish you the best.

I did try Cymbalta but I read a gazillion posts about people gaining weight on Cymbalta....but I found similar tales posted about all the SSRIs..Something about how long term SSRI usage slows down your metabolism..People complained that no matter how much they excersized or how little the ate they still could not lose weight. I'm only 5'0" tall, so when I gain 1 lb it looks like 5lbs...snif snif....

I thought OCD was more like someone who constantly has to wash hands, check the locks and lights, neat freaks ect....heck, I dunno.

~GP

Wow, I was reading this and thought I wrote it. I am going through the exact same thing as you, i too have always bitten my nails but since taking adderall 40mg a day fro 2 years now, it has become much worse. My skin looks awful, I have horrible neck acne ever since i took the adderall, which cause me to constantly pick at my face. I did lose 85 lbs within the first year of the adderall, I was also very overweight. I would like to go off it too but scared because I know i have add and will not be able to function without it. I also get hives all the time, especially at night before im trying to go to bed, my pupils are also very dialted which NEVER happened before this drug. trust me I feel your pain, I wish i could give you some advice but I cant, just know your not alone...

I get the neck break outs too....I think a large part of my break outs is due to the fact I can't keep my hands off my face and neck. The bacteria from your hands cause break outs. It just sucks because it's almost like I can't control the constant picking, biting, tearing, and any other destructive tick you can think of. I was sitting in a meeting the other day and I couldn't stop picking at my fingers and nails....I held my hands low while I did it so know one would see....Even when I'm aware of what I'm doing I can't seem to stop...Anxiety city I guess!...Makes me feel so lame, almost like I'm some little critter knawing away at something...Definatly affects my self esteem because it produces a lot of shame...I feel so different than everyone else, so out of control...Sometimes it's quite comical, or I like to tell myself that. I mean, I'm a full time professional with a several full time anxiety driven ticks. I hate it....The adderall has made it worse I know...However, the adderall helps me so much in other areas that I'm afraid to stop it. Sometimes at night I can't sleep because my legs and feet are all heated up and itchy...my feet get so bright red that it looks and feels like they are going to pop. I'll lie in bed itching my brains out so I have no choice but to take some antihistamines to control it...the antihistamines will in turn make me fall asleep - but woah! In the morning I feel like I'm waking up to the world's worst hangover due to all the meds I had to take in order to stop the hives. So....I then have to take an adderall to even function...In the mornings, I'm so dizzy that I've almost fallen down the stairs. Of course, once the adderall kicks in I'm feeling A-OK and I can go on with life.....the sad scenario repeats itself daily.

~GP

iv'e been on adderall since january and i know if i try to skip a day i feel lethargic and grouchy as hell, i had the worst stomach ache that paticular day too

! the only thing i can think of is to go off it gradually maye lower your dosage 5mg a month hopefully it should give your body time to adjust to the lower dosage. talk to your doctor and see what he/she say's i know my psych says i have to be on this forever, and he told me not to take days off. but the next time i have a vacation from work i'm going to try to stop for that week and see what happens.(the week of oct. 9th). so i wish you well and be strong!!!!

~GP

Greenpea, have you had a real thorough evaluation to rule out any anxiety disorders? I've read and heard that Adderall does exacerbate those tendencies, however I don't have any personal experience with it. I thought about asking for Adderall for myself, but I have OCD which would likely get much worse on it. Your prescribing physician can help you titrate it down, and do look into some other medications after you know exactly what's going on with you in the "other ways."

I must agree with calico that your troubles sound more like OCD than ADHD. It would be highly unlikely to get those kinds of side effects at such a low dosage. Most likely the meds have plateaud and you need either a combo med for your ADHD and OCD or a change in meds altogether.

Do talk to a doctor and preferably a psychologist about your concerns and symptoms. Nobody deserves to have the problems you have and if you just sit around worrying about them you only make them worse.

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It depends on the anti-depressant. I started with Lexapro a few months ago and food cravings did increase, however, it was excellent at helping me deal with anxiety. However, because of the food craving my doctor switched me to Cymbalta which has been an excellent med for me. No cravings, mood is stable and I deal much better with anxiety and compulsiveness.

MaxDad

Thanks guys....I pray we all get through this junk.

~GP

I agree too, sounds like a severe anxiety problem, and/or OCD problem. The Adderall probably just exacerbated it. A different family of stimulants may work better for you. I can take Concerta, but I can't take Adderall. Adderall makes my anxiety get completely out of control, while the Concerta helps it. I know someone else that had the opposite reaction to those two meds though, as I did.

My guess is that you will have to get the anxiety under control first though before a doctor will try another stimulant.

You will do fine coming off the stimulant. Remember that it leaves your system every day anyway. Your body is used to it wearing off. The hard part is getting used to feeling like your normal ADHD self again. Your anxiety sounds so bad right now though, that quitting the stimulant, may reduce your anxiety enough that you may actually feel better.

Keep in close contact with your doctor. Good luck!

Umm well, I have always been like this. The fact that I mess around with them just means I like it alot, but I never have to take that much on a regular basis, i would only do that once every 2-3 weeks

Hello All....

Sadly, I have been on Adderall (no more than 30 mg/daily ever) for around 7 years now... I say sadly because the drug has done wonders for me but it's also harmed me. Although I've never abused it I have developed a dependency on it due to fear of who I'll become once off of it.

I've been a chronic nail biter since birth but now it's much worse..I believe it's a result from the adderall...But that's certainly not all, I find that all my paranoiahs and emotional issues have grown much more intense. Sometimes I make myself crazy because I'm so overlly aware of myself and I'm always wondering what people are thinking...Of course, self esteem issues are a common among ADD folk but the adderall has definatly increased the struggle. Another huge thing is digestive issues...when I stopped using adderall in the past I would be plauged with constipation and depression. I went over a week without going to the bathroom and as soon as I took the adderall things we're normal again...(not really).....I also have night time hives (uticaria) and have developed a condition called Dermatographia - Is Adderall the culprit? - wish I knew dang it! So honestly, I feel narly most the time....narly as is YUK not as in WAY COOL DUDE...my fingers look like I stuck them in the garbage disposal, my carb cravings and food binges are out of control, my self-esteem has plummeted, I'm always picking at my skin (looks like hell as a result) and my mood swings are growing worse by the day. Each of these ticks have grown stronger, about 50 times stronger with my adderall usage...In turn I believe the cons are out weighing the pros for me and I just want to stop this drug...I'm scared to death of gaining weight and feeling like a zombie (one big tired fat constipated zombie)....yeah, there I said it.....Thanks Adderall.......So, my main question is, once you quit, how long will it take to feel normal again...anything help relieve withdrawl symptoms? How will I keep from eating everything in sight and crying till the cows come home? Geeze, I love good stuff of ADD, but I HATE the bad stuff...my life is a series of chaotic moments...

greenpea38942.625162037 Euphoria

If I recall from some of your earlier posts, you tend to occasionally play loose with your meds and place yourself in some rather unhealthy situations. I only mention that because addication for you may be related to a number of factors specific to you.

I take the highest dose of Adderall of anyone I've ever met. I follow my doctors prescription to the letter. I maintain absolute consistency with my treatment. On the few occasions I have taken days off, I am more sleepy and tired for one or two days, but I am functional. And after 2 days, I am my old normal untreated ADD self.

I mention this becasue I believe that if these meds are taken "as prescribed", addiction is not an issue -- research backs this up.

On the other hand, there can easily be a variety of additional personal factors and co-morbid issues that somehow result in addictive behaviors.

Otherwise, I'm glad to see you back. Seems like you haven't been posting for a while.

MaxDad
Maxdad38945.909537037What I'm about to say to you is shocking, yet true.

You might never feel normal again.
I became addicted and dependent on it.
I couldn't get out of bed without it.

So I went off of it for about a month.
It was miserable.
I slept.
For 3-4 days at a time.
I felt miserable.
Depressed.
Anxious.
Despair.
And I couldn't get a single task done at all without getting sidetracked.

It didn't work out.
I'm back on it.
I'd say your best bet is to just keep taking it.
but i realized something.
I feel better on the adderall than I ever did even was I was normal.
I'm very happy with it.
Even if I am dependent on it, it's really not a big deal now.
just take them in the morning and go about your productive, good mood day.Euphoria38945.7018865741

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You sound ok to me. Do you know how many "so called" normal people bit their nails? Some pick their nose and eat it and they call themselves normal. Don't worry what other people think of you. You have only one life to live. Don't spend it worrying what other people think of you. They are no better in Gods eyes than you are.

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That's like telling a suicidal person "hey, just stop being sad and things will get better"...please good1, don't go into psychology.

~GP

Hey thanks Max...that makes me feel better. My research consisted mainly of reading peoples post on various forums. I literally read at leat 20 or more posts of people who gain significant amounts of weight on Cymbalta. Heck, I don't know these people or their lifestyle habits, but it was enough to make me want to stop taking it. Maybe I'll give it another go.

Check out this link....this is why it freaks me out.

http://www.anxietyhelp.org/treatment/medication/cymbalta.htm l

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It's really not any of it a big deal unless YOU are uncomfortable with any of it, and it gets in the way of your life somehow. OCDers are great organizers and that's a good thing!

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Well, I'm the most unorganized person I know...and yes these things get in the way of my life because they affect my self-esteem. I know I'm believing lies about myself and know one want's to be set free more than I. I've sought help numerous time in several different ways. The nail biting is not just nailbiting...my fingers are literally ripped to shreds and my binge eating can get so bad that I don't want to leave the house. I forget to pay bills, I lose everything, my finances are a trainwreck....sorry if this sounds like a pity party and maybe it is one..all I know is that I HATE IT &I can't seem to get a grip on anything. Basically, it's about my core beliefs, I'll admit it..deep inside I don't love myself, therefore I stress trying to be something I feel people will love...and it's a TOTAL LIE FROM THE PITS OF HELL..but I've pretty much felt like a dissapointment my whole life and I'm just now starting to realize a few things.

~GP

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Well, I have proved my point. This drugs are not good for you.

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What point? To prove a point you have to first make one. And proving a point needs to be something better than a personal declaration.

MaxDad
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Greenpea

Actually the clinical research on Cymbalta showed no increases in weight. They tested over 1,100 people of which 8 had a decrease of appetite and 2 had weight loss. There were no reports of weight gain.

While these nu mbers are not statistically signiticant, they should be encouring to anyone who fears weight gain while on Cymbalta.

Regarding other SSRI's I read somewhere that the average weight gain is 6lbs in the first year.

MaxDad

greanpea, OCD manifests itself in a variety of ways, handwashing (the thing with germs and keeping body clean, is just the most we are aware of). I have OCD, and don't go overboard on that issue. A lot of OCD comes out when we are stressed, so whatever you do when you are stressed, what do you turn to? It becomes sort of a coping mechanism. We are also big counters and anal about things being perfect. We all have different things we can be anal about. When I'm talking to someone, my anxiety comes out and I start to scratch my arms, fiddle with my jewelry, or fold any paper I've got in my hands the size of a postage stamp. Fidgety nerves. It's really not any of it a big deal unless YOU are uncomfortable with any of it, and it gets in the way of your life somehow. OCDers are great organizers and that's a good thing! I hope many of the things that are bothering you subside after you are hopefully able to wean off the adderall. There are better meds for you, I'm sure! [QUOTE=good1]

Well, I have proved my point. This drugs are not good for you.

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I'm reporting you Good1. You have no business on this site. You are only here to be mean and cause trouble. You need to be gone.

Well, I have proved my point. This drugs are not good for you.